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the second thing is that the nra is basically a no regulation organization. they don't want any new regulations of any sort. and none of the gun, i don't call them gun rights groups, but gun proliferation groups, because that is the business they are in, to make sure that there are more guns produced, sold and in public hands. and i think that, that pushing in that direction is actual think wrong direction for us to go, because they will not only -- there will be people who most people who buy a gun will use it responsibly. but the more guns that are out there, the more likely guns will be able to fall into the hands of the criminals, and that becomes the problem. >> okay. well, the debate will carry on and i will have you back soon. dana loeshe and charles blow. thank you both very much. nd flu fights your worst flu symptoms, plus that cough. [ sighs ] thanks!... [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back
the second thing is that the nra is basically a no regulation organization. they don't want any new regulations of any sort. and none of the gun, i don't call them gun rights groups, but gun proliferation groups, because that is the business they are in, to make sure that there are more guns produced, sold and in public hands. and i think that, that pushing in that direction is actual think wrong direction for us to go, because they will not only -- there will be people who most people who buy...
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and i don't think it's too surprising nra still opposed to any form of gun control. i actually thought that wayne lapierre's testimony which i have also seen is interesting because he seemed to back off some of the more incendiary rhetoric of other forums, most notably, the initial press conference lashing out at the left and the media and everybody else and peek like the hecklers in the hearing and don't speak for the republican party and don't speak for the nra but it's sort of a piece with the strategy that the nra has where they're not talking to the broad majority of people and not talking to people who are in the middle on this issue but only a narrow angry base and the more they do that, the more they risk marginalizing themselves in this discussion. >> you say it shouldn't be a surprise that the nra not support an assault weapons ban and what was seen as the least controversial aspect of this debate has been a universal background check looking at the polling even folk who is are members of the nra and who republicans seem to support that idea. wayne lapierre
and i don't think it's too surprising nra still opposed to any form of gun control. i actually thought that wayne lapierre's testimony which i have also seen is interesting because he seemed to back off some of the more incendiary rhetoric of other forums, most notably, the initial press conference lashing out at the left and the media and everybody else and peek like the hecklers in the hearing and don't speak for the republican party and don't speak for the nra but it's sort of a piece with...
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some say the nra. here is joe johns with the investigation. >> since congress hasn't confirms a director of the bu bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms for six years, they should confirm todd jones. >> the president's latest attempt to get a director confirmed for the atf is something congress has never done. gun control advocates are quick to point fingers. >> the mra through members of congress have sought to either defund or in some instances emasculate the atfe by restricting their operations in some ways as to prevent them from doing their job. >> the washington post editorial board said the gun rights lobby has spent considerable time and energy in pursuit of one goal, crippling the atf. the nra has been highly critical of the agency, which sees its mission as preventing violent crime by enforcing federal gun laws and tracing firearms used in crimes. but blaming the nra, does it add up? not exactly. in 2006, republicans in the congress required senate confirmation for the atf director. before
some say the nra. here is joe johns with the investigation. >> since congress hasn't confirms a director of the bu bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms for six years, they should confirm todd jones. >> the president's latest attempt to get a director confirmed for the atf is something congress has never done. gun control advocates are quick to point fingers. >> the mra through members of congress have sought to either defund or in some instances emasculate the atfe by...
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there are only 4 million members of the nra. there are 80 million american moms and we are going to be a force to be reckoned with. >> john: i like your math. how do you think you can go up against the incredibly huge gun lobby who have spent millions of dollars to buy off politicians in dc? what will it take to get through to them. >> people said that money would dictate the outcome of the presidential election, and what actually determined that election outcome were women and mothers. we're going to do the same thing for gun control. i suggest if you ask a legislator who they tell you who they're scared of, it will be a mom and not the nra j how do you think president obama has been on gun control over the past four years. >> i am very pleased that he has now since the sandy hook shootings come out with a proposal. the hard part is getting it passed. we would ask that it is brought to the floor as a comprehensive piece of legislation. that it's heard and voted on, that we do not dilute, delay or debate this. it is time for com
there are only 4 million members of the nra. there are 80 million american moms and we are going to be a force to be reckoned with. >> john: i like your math. how do you think you can go up against the incredibly huge gun lobby who have spent millions of dollars to buy off politicians in dc? what will it take to get through to them. >> people said that money would dictate the outcome of the presidential election, and what actually determined that election outcome were women and...
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some say the nra. here is joe johns. >> since there has not been a director of the bureau of alcoholic, firearms and tobacco they should confirm todd jones. >> reporter: gun control advocates are quick to point the finger. >> the nra through members of congress have sought to defund or in some instances emasculate the atfe by restricting the operations in such ways as to prevent them from doing their job. >> reporter: the washington post editorial board says that the gun rights lobby has spent considerable time and energy in one goal, crippling the atf. the nra has been critical of the agency which sees the mission as preventing violent crimes by finding firearms used in violent crimes. but does it add up? no. before that the senate was required to confirm, and so when president george bush nominated michael sullivan, it looked like an easy vote, but it could not get an easy vote in a republican senate? >> did they ever believe it would happen? and candidly, no. >> reporter: senator larry craig and two
some say the nra. here is joe johns. >> since there has not been a director of the bureau of alcoholic, firearms and tobacco they should confirm todd jones. >> reporter: gun control advocates are quick to point the finger. >> the nra through members of congress have sought to defund or in some instances emasculate the atfe by restricting the operations in such ways as to prevent them from doing their job. >> reporter: the washington post editorial board says that the gun...
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got any sense at all, you know, that the industry was opposed to my nomination, nor even the nra. >> reporter: when president obama took office, the senate sat on his first nominee andrew traver, and even conservatives like darrell issa called for action. >> did andrew traver is the november 2010 designate should in fact be given and up or down vote, and should be given the opportunity to be confirmed. >> reporter: but the republicans and nra could spell trouble for todd jones, because already todd grassley is raising concerns over his fast and furious scandal. but they do believe that the atf deserves a permanent leader. >> should there be a bureau? >> yes. >> should there be a director? >> yes. >> you believe that there should be a director of the atf? >> yes, but the problem is getting the right person there permanently. in the meantime, todd jones serves a as the current atf director and the attorney general for minnesota. his office did not respond to cnn for comment. erin? >> well, it is amazing, joe, that we go this long with these new laws that we have to make sure that what
got any sense at all, you know, that the industry was opposed to my nomination, nor even the nra. >> reporter: when president obama took office, the senate sat on his first nominee andrew traver, and even conservatives like darrell issa called for action. >> did andrew traver is the november 2010 designate should in fact be given and up or down vote, and should be given the opportunity to be confirmed. >> reporter: but the republicans and nra could spell trouble for todd...
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i'm sorry. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: regarding the nra. i want to show everyone what the real deal is. some people say the nra may just be an example of the domestic terrorism that we are facing. the nra, all they care about is money. they don't give a rat's rump about anyone's lives or safety. and they sure don't care about second amendment rights as they claim, because a person exercising their second amendment rights could still get shot and kill. as long as the guns keep floating around they make the money. is it any wonder why they are so much in favor of everyone including the mentally disabled of getting guns. >> stephanie: yeah, they oppose every single reasonable gun-control measure. when you look at all of the polling, americans agree with us on those measures. and that's why i keep thinking why are they so powerful and fearful? >> the nra represents the gun manufacturing industry. >> stephanie: right. what is that story i just did from the "new york times." it is all of these gun groups that are interested in selling guns. >> pe
i'm sorry. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: regarding the nra. i want to show everyone what the real deal is. some people say the nra may just be an example of the domestic terrorism that we are facing. the nra, all they care about is money. they don't give a rat's rump about anyone's lives or safety. and they sure don't care about second amendment rights as they claim, because a person exercising their second amendment rights could still get shot and kill. as long as the guns keep...
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the baltimore city chief, james johnson, is going to testify as well as the nra, which has resisted gun control measures that have been talked about. so as this conversation moves forward, how do we continue to have a thoughtful and logical national debate on gun control and apply these solutions on curbing gun violence in major cities and smaller cities and rural ones, but as you say, with everyone not being on the same page, this really does demonstrate that this is not a one-sized fits all answer to this. >> i think, personally, what we have to do is stop calling it gun control. we're trying to control violence. and that has many different facets to it. there's mental health issues, there's databases we need access to, there's record checks that need to be done. there's reporting stolen weapons, doctors being involved, and sharing information between schools, police, mental health professionals. so we need to stop calling it a gun control debate. that's what my personal opinion is, because like i said, when people hear that, they're on one side or the other. and we shouldn't be. we s
the baltimore city chief, james johnson, is going to testify as well as the nra, which has resisted gun control measures that have been talked about. so as this conversation moves forward, how do we continue to have a thoughtful and logical national debate on gun control and apply these solutions on curbing gun violence in major cities and smaller cities and rural ones, but as you say, with everyone not being on the same page, this really does demonstrate that this is not a one-sized fits all...
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his prepared testimony released by the nra sounds familiar warnings. law-eye biding gun owners will not take responsibility for criminals nor do we believe the government should dictate what we can lawfully own. he will have avid defenders on the committee holding the hearing, like orrin hatch. >> well, after years of being pushed around, it's tough for them not to be combative. wayne lapierre is one of the nicest, kindest people you'll ever meet but he really does believe in the second amendment, as do i. >> reporter: le go head to head with dianne feinstein. >> he makes his claim that everybody is entitled to these weapons. my view is, everybody is entitled to be safe. >> reporter: she called the nra veen nal but insists it's not personal with lapierre. >> he wants one thing, i want an entirely different thing. he's there for gun people, to allow them to have these guns regardless. they are fought virtually every kind of regulation. the time has come to change course. >> reporter: and when it comes to legislation, feinstein isn't only going to have t
his prepared testimony released by the nra sounds familiar warnings. law-eye biding gun owners will not take responsibility for criminals nor do we believe the government should dictate what we can lawfully own. he will have avid defenders on the committee holding the hearing, like orrin hatch. >> well, after years of being pushed around, it's tough for them not to be combative. wayne lapierre is one of the nicest, kindest people you'll ever meet but he really does believe in the second...
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the nra said "the second amendment is not about shooting skeet and it's not a tradition. it's a fundamental right upheld by the u.s. supreme court." so while obama seemed to be reaching out, however awkwardly, to gun owner, the whole thing may have backfired. obama skeet shooting on target or telling? facebook.com/carolcnn, or tweet me @carolcnn. ♪ [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪ ...people noticed. ♪ the all-new cadillac ats -- 2013 north american car of the year. ♪ for a limited time, take advantage of this exceptional offer on the all-new cadillac ats. so i used my citi thankyou card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? and with all the points i've been earning, i was able to get us a flight to our favorite climbing spot even on a holiday weekend. ♪ things are definitely looking up. [ male announcer ] with no blackout dates, you can use your citi thankyou points to travel whenever you want. visit citi.com/thankyoucards to apply.
the nra said "the second amendment is not about shooting skeet and it's not a tradition. it's a fundamental right upheld by the u.s. supreme court." so while obama seemed to be reaching out, however awkwardly, to gun owner, the whole thing may have backfired. obama skeet shooting on target or telling? facebook.com/carolcnn, or tweet me @carolcnn. ♪ [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪ ...people noticed. ♪...
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. >> you are basically pair rodding paranoia from the nra and gun owners because nobody is saying take away every gun. what they are saying is take a look at the type of weapon used to cause these massacres that are all too common in our society. >> but they are not common. in ci >> in cities like washington chicago there's so much murder. we are trying to say murder by gun is a national epidemic. >> this is part of the problem is bad information. juan you are putting out bad information. number one they are not all too common. rifles all forms of rifles were used in fewer than 300 homicides in the most recent year for which records are available. hand guns were used in about 9,000 homicides. >> i agree with you. i don't know why you are saying i am putting out bad information. there's too much murder. >> i own some of these rifles, no they are not suited for the military. if you ask somebody out of the military ask my stepson in the marines would he take a semi automatic rifle that shoots that low powered cartridge not high powered cartridge. >> you talk to parents in newtown, here in
. >> you are basically pair rodding paranoia from the nra and gun owners because nobody is saying take away every gun. what they are saying is take a look at the type of weapon used to cause these massacres that are all too common in our society. >> but they are not common. in ci >> in cities like washington chicago there's so much murder. we are trying to say murder by gun is a national epidemic. >> this is part of the problem is bad information. juan you are putting...
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. >> i'm assuming clarence you include heritage alongside with the nra and others? >> certainly then ra has become an organization whose members are gun owners but the money comes from the gun industry. >> right. >> heritage didn't quite there yet, but they do get a lot of contributions from corporations that benefit from their work. >> okay. now, luke, the gang of eight's mike lee, who owns a 99% score from heritage, won't now back the group's immigration plan. last year they saw heritage threaten to score an amendment banning high capacity clips. what makes grading systems like this one so powerful? >> well, i think primarily is that if you fail to get a good grade with heritage action, you are essentially a target for a primary. if you look at the way they do this, it's a very effective grading system in terms of trying to appeal to conservative media and to conservative grassroots activists. you can say that someone like maybe not eric cantor, but someone in more of a district where he doesn't have the financial backing that eric cantor might have, oh, my god, t
. >> i'm assuming clarence you include heritage alongside with the nra and others? >> certainly then ra has become an organization whose members are gun owners but the money comes from the gun industry. >> right. >> heritage didn't quite there yet, but they do get a lot of contributions from corporations that benefit from their work. >> okay. now, luke, the gang of eight's mike lee, who owns a 99% score from heritage, won't now back the group's immigration plan....
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they ought to be listening to people like that mother, not the nra, not the gun makers, not the right wing pun dants. we should listen to a mother who lost all four of her children, her son, rodney, now joins the list of more than 1300 people gunned down just since the newtown massacre last month. we must build a nation where people are valued more than partisan politics. where flesh and blood means more than dollars and cents. we can not have a future in the country if we don't have a future for those that live around the country. it's time for sane and sensible gun control. women like that mother should not have to suffer as she's suffering. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >> tea for two. let's play "hardball." >> good evening, let ple start with this. barack and hillary, good-bye or hello? last night's dual appearance on "60 minutes" a fine good-bye or a statement? was it the president saying i know which way the wind is blowing? was it barack obama saying i want a democrat to replace moe? any way you listen to it, i think secretary clinton will r
they ought to be listening to people like that mother, not the nra, not the gun makers, not the right wing pun dants. we should listen to a mother who lost all four of her children, her son, rodney, now joins the list of more than 1300 people gunned down just since the newtown massacre last month. we must build a nation where people are valued more than partisan politics. where flesh and blood means more than dollars and cents. we can not have a future in the country if we don't have a future...
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the thing we have right now is the nra has always been this powerhouse organization, which has been a lot more money than actual action. what you have now is a countervailing force where you can actually have a grassroots effort to get people to call their members of congress, to put some pressure on them, and actually get something done from the outside. and i just came from the new republic launch party. as the president told the new republic, you know, you've got to get the change from the outside in, or else it's never going to happen. and if people don't call their members of congress and say to the ones who disagree with this policy, you've got to move or you're going to pay a political price. and tell the ones who do agree with the policy, great, thank you, keep pushing because we need this right now. >> but the first time they are employing it, they sent out a couple of e-mails essentially saying we're doing this thing. this is the first time they have tried to apply it on a policy matter. you have to admit the timing was ridiculous. >> well. >> that makes me feel like there m
the thing we have right now is the nra has always been this powerhouse organization, which has been a lot more money than actual action. what you have now is a countervailing force where you can actually have a grassroots effort to get people to call their members of congress, to put some pressure on them, and actually get something done from the outside. and i just came from the new republic launch party. as the president told the new republic, you know, you've got to get the change from the...
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americans as well, what about the gun issue and the attempts, dianne feinstein is just getting hit by the nra for her leadership on this issue. what can the urban league do to help push along the gun lawed agenda? >> the gun manufacturers lobby and their allies will attack anyone who seeks -- to impose commonsense gun legislation, and i think we have to change -- make sure that the discussion is not about a lobby group in washington that it is a discussion about the children. it's a discussion about the victims. whether they be the awful tragedy in aurora or newtown or if it's downtown chicago or if it's east side of detroit or new orleans or baltimore, thb about the victims and the children, and what makes good sense in the 21st century, so i applaud the president, senator feinstein. we support what they're doing. we think there ought to be particular emphasis on prevention measures and on mental health interventions, and we think that that should not get lost in the discussion as we move forward. >> thank you very much. you heading back home for the super bowl? >> you know, i'm trying to fi
americans as well, what about the gun issue and the attempts, dianne feinstein is just getting hit by the nra for her leadership on this issue. what can the urban league do to help push along the gun lawed agenda? >> the gun manufacturers lobby and their allies will attack anyone who seeks -- to impose commonsense gun legislation, and i think we have to change -- make sure that the discussion is not about a lobby group in washington that it is a discussion about the children. it's a...
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administration to push gun control at a national level and actually fund candidates to counter balance the nra candidates. so if security and armed security is good for him i expect it for that single mother in new york city who is concerned about thugs and wannabe thugs who are going to rob her home. martha: she can legally have a gun and carry it. >> she can have a gun but it's restrictive as to the number of rounds in the magazine. right now nypd the standard issue firearm has 15 round in a magazine. now in new york you can only have seven. i'm sorry, burglars don't just rob homes by themselves. usually they have partners and they are not going to follow any directive, oh, please if you're going to rob this home, just do it by yourself, don't have two or three or four people with you. i think americans not the government should determine how many bullets they need to defend their person, property and family. martha: what do you think his answer would have been if you had got even through with him. why he deserves, and public officials deserve, and i think you're right, and most americans be
administration to push gun control at a national level and actually fund candidates to counter balance the nra candidates. so if security and armed security is good for him i expect it for that single mother in new york city who is concerned about thugs and wannabe thugs who are going to rob her home. martha: she can legally have a gun and carry it. >> she can have a gun but it's restrictive as to the number of rounds in the magazine. right now nypd the standard issue firearm has 15 round...